I admit that I am powerless to control my tendency to do the wrong thing, and my life is unmanageable. Celebrate Recovery (CR) meets at 6 p.m. Saturdays at Good Shepherd Church, 2341 S. Military Trail, West Palm Beach, featuring dinner, a big meeting and small open share groups. (1) The Bible declares that drunkenness is a sin but those in Recovery believe it to be a disease. He told me exactly what would happen, and how it would play out. Here are ten common situations that are very dangerous to a person in recovery. Plight of the disillusioned. Roughly in 2014, I was going through some books in our bookshelf, and my eyes came upon the Big Book (Alcoholics Anonymous), and an Alateen book that I had for quite a long time. A sister meeting called The Landing is available for students in grades 7 and up. He partied in college at the University of Missouri and as an officer in the air force, and his drinking habit grew as his career in business took off in his 30s. For more info click on church name after choosing a province or territory. I warn you, as I did before, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Compromise your own values and integrity to avoid . However, the cost of sharing the truth with others, is rejection. (KJV), John 10:7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. So with that said, we all have to start somewhere and often its on the wrong path before we truly find our Lord. When he hit his bottom, he began attending daily AA meetings, working through the steps, and finding hope in a God who loved him unconditionally. Two members of that group William(Bill) Wilson, and Dr. Bob Smith came together in 1935 to officially start what is known as AA. Admission of powerlessness is the first step in liberation. Forest Brook Community Church. Amen brother, you are correct, we cannot be unequally yoked with unbelievers, or mixing light with darkness(2 Cor 6:14). So much in Christianity today is not based on Christ's teachings as much as it's based upon the ideas and theories of mankind. These were also women who professed His Name, one even ironically being from Saddleback. Whatever my point of willingness to believe and have faith to walk in and with him is where he meets me. It may use terms like god, creator, higher power, however, the god and creator that they speak is not that of Jesus/Yeshua. This is the very definition of deception, to appear one way, but with the intention to do another. As a result, people often walk out of worship services with their lives unchanged. Alcoholism is not a disease. I will say too, that these programs do sometimes act as a religion and Ive seen that for myself, but just as when I go to church or study my Bible, I have to let God guide me away from the false preachings and allow Him to give the message that is meant for me. Every meeting, except my last, I was always led to open my Word and read directly from it. He wanted to also save lives, now. With the introduction of The Landing-God's vision for Celebrate Recovery is now complete!" -John Baker "The Landing provides a safe place for students to share about their hurts, hang-ups, and habits and learn to apply the Principles of Celebrate Recovery to help them break the cycle of dysfunction in their families." - Johnny Baker Alcoholics and Addicts are deeply inflicted with this sin sickness. This is why we are warned throughout the NT writings to not be deceived. Some Celebrate Recovery groups offer childcare: "Celebration Place" for kids and "The Landing" for youth. nph: to be sober, to abstain from wine. If you chose to eat ten candy bars every day and to never brush your teeth, they would start rotting out. (BSB), John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 1 Founded 25 years ago by pastor Rick Warren and the Saddleback Church in California, it started with just 43 people but now has groups in 29,000 churches all over the globe with more than 3.5 million . It also anti-christ as it denies Yeshua/Jesus as the Only Way(1 Joh 2:22-23, Joh 14:6). Your First Step to Celebrate Recovery: How God Can Heal Your Life by John Baker. We are all broken and in need of a Saviour; my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,. However, as she began the meeting, she had decided for the other group leader to go first who was sitting to my left. You said, Why do we need 12 steps when the only step our Saviour has told us to do is repent and turn away from sin/evil. 1 Peter 1:13Therefore prepare your minds for action. John touched more people with the healing power and grace of Jesus Christ than anyone else that I have ever known personally and one of those lives was mine, wrote Celebrate Recoverys national director and national training coach Mac and Mary Owen. Celebrate Recovery is a biblical and balanced program that helps us overcome our hurts, hang-ups, and habits. The Danger of Teaching Information Without Application By Rick Warren I believe the number one problem with preaching in America is its lack of application. Not only that, but these biblical comparisons are verses that are taken completely out of context, and have absolutely nothing to do with what they are trying to fit, it is like trying to fit a square peg into a round holeAnd just as like above, there is no mention of the these addictions being sin, but rather what is called: hangups, habits, and character defects; and of course no mention of repentance either. a sermon that goes along with our Celebrate recovery ministry, covering the different steps. Elena, yes, thank you. True sobriety is not only having control over the body, but also the mind. Search: Dangers Of Celebrate Recovery. As above, I will be going through steps 1-3, and 12, and directly quoted from CR website: 1 ) We admitted we were powerless over our addictions and compulsive behaviors, that our lives had become unmanageable. Dangers of self-sufficiency. Yeshua is still in the healing and deliverance ministry. So, if you are sharing the truth about Gods Word, and how it contradicts the doctrine and spiritual application within AA, then great, but I am not sure how they would allow that to continue if the leaders of AA became known you were speaking out against the program. He delivered me completely of alcohol, and a great many of other things. C. C.R. A person could choose Buddha, Allah, Shati, Satan, as well as AA itself. Because Celebrate Recovery is based on the Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous and practiced in thousands of Christian churches without ever being questioned or held up to the light of scripture it is one of the most damaging forms of apostasy in the modern Christian church. The magnificent reality. Call us today at 800-256-3490 to begin your journey. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. About Of Dangers Recovery Celebrate Believing you are finally cured of your addiction. John 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Then, the seemingly virtuous entities would elbow them out with messages of comfort, information, adviceand sometimes just sheer nonsense.. Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous. Initially when I went through rehab, now over 13 years ago, I went briefly through AA(Alcoholics Anonymous) as it was a requirement of the rehabilitation program I was part of. (Pgs 8-9). Why must every A.A. hit bottom? With Gods help, he showed again and again that those cycles can be broken, he said. Substitution of A.A. as Higher Power. 2. A new state of consciousness and being is received as a free gift. I was a facilitator for CR at my church. Thank you, Patty for sharing your thoughts and comment on this matter. Then they can turn their lives over to this god as they understand him. uses the 12 Steps and its 8 Principles (supposedly based upon the Beatitudes - acronym spells "recovery") 1. How should a Christian view addiction? For example, as I mentioned in my post, I would not partake in the worship: I attended CR for a year, and during that time I was instructed by the Spirit to not partake in the worship, as the music and worship came from Saddleback. Yes, you are correct in that we should never simply believe anyones word at something, and I am not offended if you do not believe my testimony. Both alcohol and drugs impair judgment and control of the body. (Pg 5), Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him.Step Three is like opening of a locked door. It is based on the actual words of Jesus rather than psychological theory. The only way for that to happen is through repentance of these programs/doctrines. I was immediately confronted after the meeting, and then again when I arrived the following week, as I was pulled aside by the lead woman of the group. Is it a sin for a Christian to drink alcohol / wine? The Bible tells us to hate sin and evil, to cut it out of our life. There is simply no way to put into words how I love John and will miss this kind, creative, brilliant and faithful man., Evangelical leader Johnnie Moore, whose family previously belonged to Saddleback Church when living in California, remembered Bakers commitment to saving the lives of the people whom God loves., He became a doctor of hope for those whose lives were caught in vicious cycles of guilt, shame, and failure. Manny blessings, and I will be praying for you! In Celebrate Recovery, the levels of recovery are far worse. You don't have to face alcohol addiction alone, so give us a call today to get started at 888-448-0302. I have gone and still go to CR meetings. Gods Word is clear about trying to mix pagan worship or other religions with His. Having said that, this review (completed largely with the help of Matthew Mumma) will demonstrate that CR contains two major problems: (1) Though claiming to be biblically based, its teachings are often constructed from a misuse of Scripture and an erroneous hermeneutic. St Boniface Church-Franciscans. This is evident as you compare each step with the scriptures. At Landmark Recovery, we are happy to help you find a support system that meshes with your belief system. 2) We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. You may want to celebrate any, or all, of the following milestones in recovery: (Don't celebrate too much here because you are VERY much at risk still for relapse in the early days of recovery. I did not continue on with AA, and I am thankful for that. Wilson, or Bob for that matter, never professed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, never mentioned repentance, or that the only Way to the Father is through the Son. After I spoke, the atmosphere was so thick, you could have cut it with a knife. Michelle, thank you for your thoughts and I am glad that you took time to read this. Dangers of Celebratory Occasions in Recovery Most people in recovery will be prepared for their sobriety to be tested when times are hard. Thanks for your post. Is Celebrate Recovery a biblically sound program? There is nothing greater than the blood of the Lamb, the true Creator of the Heavens of the earth, and the King of Kings Lord of Lords, Yeshua. This was a situation that I had never planned myself but was led through the Holy Spirit to go through and then lead others into the truths pertaining to these programs. It is a bafflement that many professing believers would condone and endorse such a program knowing the full thoughts, intentions, and beliefs of AA and its origins. To find a group near you go to group finder on our web page:. I sat to the left of the CR group leader, which would mean that I would be the first to speak. Wow. This is why it is so important to know who we are listening to when it comes to worship music, and where that music is originating from. How should a Christian view alcoholics? Sam, thank you for commenting. I read this and the Spirit of God prompted to reply. However, what is the true motive of this program, what is its foundation, and is it suitable for those who profess to be walking with Messiah? I was never once told that it was a sin. Variety of ways to faith. Daly City Celebrate Recovery. 14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this sites author and/or owner is strictly prohibited. I had provided her some more truth concerning Rick Warren, but ultimately she did not understand what my purpose was there, and told me that I could not come back to Celebrate Recovery. Jun 12, 2015 - Explore Raquel Aguillon's board "Celebrate Recovery ", followed by 229 people on Pinterest. Recovery is not a straight road or an easy fix. Perhaps, in learning these truths, God might want you to share this with others; and yes, while you are correct, it might, and probably will offend. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 2 Cor 11:13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. The desire of alcohol is a lust of the flesh. Rom 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord(BSB), Mark 16:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature(KJV), 1 Cor 6:20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are Gods(KJV). While growing up, I was familiar with the term AA and Alanon, as my grandfather was an alcoholic, as well as other family members. Both founders, Bill Wilson, and Bob Smith were heavily involved in practicing necromancy, performing seances, using the Ouija board, seeking spirits, and allowing a practice in the occult called automatic writing. It was not until a few years ago that I really started to know the truth about AA, as well as other recovery groups with a foundation in AA, that even profess to be Christian alternatives. This is a dangerous form of denial. 48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. This is all quite contrary to the Word of God, and is what is called anti-Christ. Today, when individuals with mental and/or substance use disorders seek help, they are met with the knowledge and belief that anyone can recover and/or manage their conditions successfully. Thank you for your obedience. Hi Kellie, (KJV), Isaiah 8:19And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? He wrote out a vision for what would become Celebrate Recoverys own version of the 12 steps, each one paired with a teaching from Scripture, and shared it with Rick Warren back in 1991. Sustained and personal exertion necessary to conform to Gods will. Instead, they have turned to unconventional and esoteric sources in the hopes of finding what they seek in the ambiance of the mystical, magical and metaphysical.1 Given these tendencies, the Jesus of orthodox Christianity may seem inadequate. When Jesus stated, By their fruit you will know them, (Mat 7:16) He was speaking about wolves who appear to be good through what they do, and what they teach, yet are false. Recovery is a term that primarily denotes a process of physical healing. People who have experienced this deep form of sin sickness God has used and helped people through these programs. Giving that asks no reward. When I was very young in my faith and had little discernment into things and practices I was doing, I had gone to get a different kind of massage called a chakra massage. Philippians 2:13. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. Yes, God can and does help people through the church and power of the Holy Spirit with repentance. The Dangers of Dishonesty in Recovery. I will also provide links at the very end, that I found helpful while doing my own research, that may help you as well. apearlinthevineyard.com, 2018. I appreciate you sharing your insight and the leading of the Lord that you have followed without wavering. Create a safe place for hurting teenagers to overcome life's challenges by launching a Celebrate Recovery ministry-The Landing-for the students in your church, with the The Landing: Celebrate Recovery for Students Kit.. I am praying for God to show me what he wants me to do. So, I hope that in sharing the truth with people within AA, you are not identifying with this. I know, for me, it wasn't hard to recite the 12 steps in solidarity at a . They literally drain us and leave us feeling fatigued, unmotivated and even depressed. Once a person has repented, turning from sin, they are no longer defined by that sin, but rather are set free, and become a new creation: 1 Cor 6:9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? And theres many avenues to recover. We admitted we were powerless over alcoholthat our lives had become unmanageable.Who cares to admit complete defeat? This is what brings us to our Lord. This is why I had thrown away the Blue Book, as well as an Alateen book I had aquired when I was younger. So, it is important to keep ourselves pure from false doctrines and teachers. Most people cannot stay sober or clean or free from any perversion for more than six months on average, only to "go back out". So if I forgive God, then that makes Him limited and also makes mistakes? AA/NA holds people in bondage, making them think they are free. However, unlike negative energy that simply attaches itself and hovers over us like a dark cloud, energetic parasites feed on our energy. Jesus said He came to bring a sword, not peace (Mat 10:34), this means that truth will divide, and the outcome may not be peaceful because of offense. III. I sat down with my bible on my lap, that I could not open, but with Scripture memorized, and words that I knew to speak. In my mens small group I couldnt talk about my struggle, and at AA, I couldnt talk about my Savior, since the program speaks in more secular terms about a Higher Power, he told CT in 2016.
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